This is good, Dorai. Very good indeed. (01)
Boggles my mind too.
But, we can start. (02)
Don't have to collect "facts" since a "fact" to one individual is not
a fact to another. Just need to collect the data and render it visible
in ways that it can submit to social gestures not unlike those at
delicious or Tagomizer. From there, you need the facilities of other
social tools, not unlike those provided by Compendium and other
projects found at KMi [1] and in other really important resources on
the web. (03)
Data speaks for itself. Several thousand years of ice core samples,
for instance, just to name one. There's a whole science built around
quantifying and qualifying samples, and we don't need to ignore the
fact that many users of such a DKR will lack the literacy or maturity
to carry out those processes necessary to draw what some believe to be
valid conclusions from the data. The data will speak for itself. (04)
Said DKR would serve to marshall all the resources findable by its
users that relate to specific subjects identified as important, global
warming being just one umbrella for lots of identifiable subjects. (05)
I believe that the tools necessary to construct a platform on which a
serious DKR could evolve are either in the works or here today. It's
not pie-in-the-sky thinking by any means. (06)
If this thread were to get into the details of requirements, use
cases, that sort of thing, we'd have to migrate to tools-yak. (07)
Jack
[1] http://kmi.open.ac.uk/ (08)
On 6/15/06, Dorai <dorait@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I looked at a similar (may be same article). Someone printed it and left it
> on my chair in a place where I do some consulting work. I filed it away for
> later reading and thinking.
>
> The DKR for this would probably the most visible and challenging. Part of
> the challenges may be technologies, but most of them are non-technical.
>
> 1. First you have to assemble the facts - Who is qualified to say these are
> facts? How do we get from a bunch of scientific papers and evidence to "real
> facts".
>
> 2. Let us say we cross the hurdle and build a FactBase (rdb, xml, rdf, xtm
> pick your favorite one).
>
> 3. We can define maps for visually browsing this information. Simple concept
> maps would do. And let people annotate each node (at a sentence level) in
> the map.
>
> 3. We may want to build a Visual Argumentation layer (or its equivalent).
> Pick a view point and provide supporting and opposing evidence.
>
> 4. We need to have large scale social interaction (Voting, Rating, Ranking
> etc.)
>
> 5. Let us assume that we have all the tools (or use a simple wiki), how will
> we get to "Current View", as Doug calls it?
>
> Being a tools kind of guy, I mentioned more tools than processes. But then,
> I expect someone else to jump in and say how we will prototype this system
> in throw it out in a couple of months and constantly keep updating it.
> Boggles my mind, to say the least.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Park [mailto:jackpark@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 9:45 AM
> To: yak@collab.blueoxen.net
> Subject: [yak@collab] Scientists respond to Gore film
>
> http://www.canadafreepress.com/2006/harris061206.htm
>
> Not sure what to make of the article, but there are some hints of reality
> that suggest, to me, that the right thing to be doing is to put up a major
> DKR where all the facts, pointers to studies, etc, will be marshalled. That
> way, we can go to that DKR and assemble "facts"
> and draw conclusions for ourselves.
>
> Whenever there is a politician involved, there is an agenda. Shallow
> thinking says the agenda is liable be associated with getting re-elected at
> any cost, not necessarily to solve some complex, urgent problem.
>
> Just a half EURO for the day.
> Jack
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