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[yak@collab] Re: Habits of highly creative people

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From: "Peter P. Jones" <ppj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 12:01:25 +0100
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Gary Richmond wrote:
[...]
> I agree with the need for abstracting out the commonalities. For that 
> reason I would stress this item from the list I recently posted:
> 
>> Use visual as well as verbal representations. 
> 
That is an interesting thought.    (01)

> 
> For example, Peirce's existential graphs, Sowa's conceptual graphs and 
> my own trikonic diagrams are meant to "abstract out the commonalities" 
> in as diagrammatic form as is possible. I think that many of us are sick 
> of words, words, words. . .    (02)

I have thought about this option now and again. I think there is an 
issue that the combined subtlety and expressive power of words mean that 
they have a very high 'efficiency' (there's probably a better way to 
express that based on Shannon's information theory work) that is 
difficult to compete with.
There is also the issue that two sentences may be 'isomers', containing 
the same words in different order for (only) marginally different 
intent, and that symbolic 're-presentations' should capture this.    (03)

However, I also have no doubt that of the many papers written about, for 
example, RDF, a single (reference to a) description of the set 
properties of the triples would have sufficed across the majority of 
their introductions. And that presently most of these differ only in style.    (04)

So perhaps visual capture at the sentence level is no good and a higher 
level might be where it belongs. I wonder about geometric 
representations at that higher level... say, the geometrical form of the 
intent of a page's content.    (05)

An idea I have been chewing on (but haven't built yet) is a sort of 3-D 
(2 plus time) graph of (for want of a better description) the activation 
patterns that sentences produce. (Think of symbolic chemistry diagrams.) 
So if it reads a page, there is one sentence pattern per unit time, and 
a page is represented by a cascade of these geometric patterns.    (06)

I'm then left wondering whether 'iso-semantic' intent can be captured 
under (simple?!) geometric mapping rules - a bit like having a 3-D form 
collapse down to aggregate minima under gravity (or similar optimising 
constraint). The original organisation of the lexicon in the 2-D plane 
might matter a lot.    (07)

Searching on Google Images revealed some similarities with:
Topologies for Artificial Gene Networks
http://mendes.vbi.vt.edu/AGN/topologies.html
Chemical diagrams
http://www.imr.salford.ac.uk/groups/polymers/images/diels-alder_reaction2.gif
Lattice diagrams
http://www.cyberartsweb.org/cpace/cpace/poetry/lattice/images/lattice4.gif    (08)

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Peter    (09)

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