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[yak@collab] Re: Review: IBM's Remail

To: Elizabeth Churchill <churchill@xxxxxxxxx>,yak <yak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
From: Eric Armstrong <Eric.Armstrong@xxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 18:49:24 -0800
Message-id: <3FD7DB34.60801@sun.com>
Elizabeth Churchill was kind enough to send this link:    (01)

> http://www.research.ibm.com/remail/index.html
>     (02)

Which Eric then reviewed, somewhat brutally, below...
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Hmmm. They're tackling some interesting problems, but
I'm not sure they're the *key* problems. Their intro
starts out saying that "pressure to respond quickly"
and "lots of stuff" are the problems they're trying to
solve. But those are general overload issues, rather
than issues that are central to the collaboration
process.    (03)

In other respects, they have some good ideas, but the
the quality of the implementation really determines
how useful the results will be:    (04)

  * Integration of email, calendar, and chat
    The screenshots are blurred and too small to read,
    and don't link to larger versions, so it's difficult
    to know how things work. The calendar might be
    useful -- or it might not. I'm not sure how useful
    an integrated chat system really is, but it might be.    (05)

  * Date dividers
    Visual separators showing the day and date, with
    only the time showing up in the inbox are great.
    It really looks nice -- as long as the messages
    are sorted by date. But what happens in a threaded
    view?    (06)

  * Threaded view -- sort of.
    There is a "threaded" view, but it's some sort of
    list with rollover windows and some weird graphic
    with dots and arcs that looks good for 5 messages,
    but will die quickly when there are 30 or 40 messages
    in a thread. This is pretty unimpressive.    (07)

  * Marking messages with different colors
    That *sounds* like a good idea. But MS outlook found
    that's it's easily possible to screw it up. NS and
    Mozilla have a single "flag" column. You click in it,
    and that's it. Simple. Easy. Useful. Outlook had a
    right-click submenu to choose the kind of flag you
    wanted. A disaster. Right click, choose menu item,
    choose submenu item -- three steps to carry out an
    exceedingly simple operation that you do a *lot*.
    A single flag that means different things depending
    on the message you apply it to is infinitely better.    (08)

  * Collections
    Looks like a useful facility that lets you categorize
    messages and view them in a collection. Most importantly,
    a message can belong to multiple collections. Very nice.    (09)

  * Integration
    Supposed to support RSS feeds as well email, and NNTP
    discussions. May work in practice. Not sure. (My email
    client supports NNTP discussions, but I rarely if ever
    participate. Somehow, they just don't work for me.
    Integrating an RSS feed may be useful, though.)    (010)

  * Calendar
    Could be useful. But I'm finding that a calendar I keep
    in my pocket is the most valuable for my appointments,
    plus a huge calendar on the wall for deadlines. I put
    the deadlines up with post-its, so I can change them,
    and see how far away from my next deadline at a glance.
    When it comes to calendars and todo lists, I've come
    full-circle from fully automated to totally non-automated.
    But again, this more a PIM issue than a collaboration issue.    (011)

  * Visualization Tools
    These look like very interesting, amusing, and essentially
    useless bits of fluff, to me. I love good graphics, but
    the three different kinds of visualization tools they've
    come up with just don't seem to have any real utility that
    I can discern. Someone once pointed out that graphic displays
    work great in demos, with a small number of nodes, but that
    they rapidly fail to scale. Since hearing that, I've observed
    it to be true. But your mileage may vary, if you're more
    graphically inclined.    (012)

Conclusion
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The project appears to be tackling "the problems of email",
totally within the context of an email system. It does not
appear to be addressing the vastly greater potential of
"interesting problems (especially collaboration problems)
that can be addressed using exceptionally capable email
clients".    (013)

For an inkling of those capabilities, see:
  http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/yak/2003-11/msg00018.html
    A tremendously concise summary of the major issues,
    authored by Tom Munneke.    (014)

  http://www.eekim.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?ProblemsWithEmail
  http://www.eekim.com/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Abelard
    A deeper analysis and a prospective alternative, by Eugene Kim.    (015)

  http://www.treelight.com/software/collaboration/whatsWrongWithEmail.html
  http://www.treelight.com/software/collaboration/requirements.html
  http://www.treelight.com/software/collaboration/SimpleSystem.html
  http://www.treelight.com/software/collaboration/KnowledgeRepositories.html
    A lengthy review, plus requirements analysis and proposals
    for alternatives, by Eric Armstrong.    (016)

John Sechrest also found these links, which I rediscovered when
looking for the items above, and which I have yet to review:    (017)

http://domino.watson.ibm.com/cambridge/research.nsf/0/b5ab62165addd0ed85256c690070a2c8/$FILE/TR2002-10.pdf
   "Email as a habitat"    (018)

http://www.ai.mit.edu/people/dfhuynh/p345-bellotti.pdf
   "Taking email to task: The design and evaluation of a task management
    centered email tool"    (019)

http://csdl.computer.org/comp/proceedings/hicss/1998/8245/00/82450044abs.htm
   "CAFE: a Conceptual Model for Managing Information in Electronic Mail"    (020)




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