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From: Eric Armstrong <Eric.Armstrong@xxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:52:23 -0800
Message-id: <3FBABEC7.90708@sun.com>
Great observations, and marvelous news about the project.
May your design discussions be short and your usage
scenarios prolific!    (01)

(I just spent last week at a seminar on O-O analysis,
and design, including Use Cases, CRC, UML 2.0 notation,
and design patterns. A whirlwind week! Having users on
hand throughout the process is a definite theme in
agile/XP circles, and I'd darn glad to see it!)    (02)

Ted Kahn wrote:    (03)

> Folks,
> 
> I wanted to put in my two cents worth on this (and hopefully, not a 
> "Three-Penny Opera").
> 
> First, mea culpa--I haven't filled out the survey. I'm on deadlines for 
> two proposals, including one due at NSF next  Monday...I will try to do 
> this, but I'm time-bound for the next 4-5 days.
> 
> The issues Jack, Tom and others have raised about the nature of the 
> collaboration and conversation that I have seen in this list are 
> important ones . As Jack knows, I've been running and co-creating a 
> web-based Bay Area Science Education Collaboratory for science teachers, 
> and I've learned a couple of design principles about collaborative 
> online communities that seem to hold for across several projects:
> 
> - (1) collaboration is different than cooperation--it's focused on 
> designing or making something together, or making something happen. 
> Conversation and meaning-making are a necessary part of this process, 
> but if you want to get convergence and leverage of collective 
> intelligence, talents, and diversity of experiences, the best way to do 
> this that I have found is to be really making something 
> together...(Michael Schrage's book, "No More Teams" (initially published 
> as  "Shared Minds" in the early 90's) is one of the best books I've read 
> about this issue.
> 
> - (2)  the shared product being designed needs to be a participatory 
> design effort with real users--and it needs to be designed and have 
> feedback from other people outside of the design team re. its 
> usefulness.  In technology products and services, we frequently have 
> what Geoffrey Moore calls a "crossing the chasm" problem--i.e., we 
> design things and systems for the early adopters and innovators (who are 
> a slightly extended community of those of us on the design teams, since 
> we, too, are motivated to do something new, interesting, and 
> innovative)...but we're not the majority of people who are the user 
> community.  Their value premises and motivations are different--and we 
> will always run into the "chasm" between the early adopters + innovators 
> and the early/late majority on a normal bell-shaped "adoption of 
> innovation" curve if we don't involved people from the mainstream as 
> co-designers.
> 
> This issue leads to a whole discussion about the role of :"assessment" 
> of efficacy, effectiveness, and learnability --and the process I've 
> learned that best addresses this is cycles of rapid prototyping, use, 
> evaluation and reflection...but it has to involve real users from the 
> mainstream majority.
> 
> I'm involved in another very exciting distributed educational 
> collaborative design effort now with the NMC (New Media Consortium, 
> nmc.org), which has received a major grant from the federal Institute of 
> Museum and Library Services (IMLS.gov) to create a next-generation, open 
> source multimedia authoring and publishing environment for non-technical 
> people in both museums and colleges/universities. It's based on a system 
> called Pachyderm, which was originally created by the SF Museum of 
> Modern Art (SFMOMA), and this effort involves a core team of 15-20 
> people from 14 institutions around the U.S. and Canada--5 art museums, 5 
> colleges/universities, 2 university libraries, NMC and me (DesignWorlds 
> for Learning) as an external evaluator.  The way we're doing the 
> collaboration is via a lot of blogging (using TypePad), listserv, 
> collaboratively creating use scenarios and user personae, and am 
> ambitious distributed open source sw development, testing and evaluation 
> process.  It's a 3-year grant, with a 1:1 matching financial 
> contribution by all the partners, and the sw development is already 
> ahead of schedule (we just started last month)...the great thing is that 
> this product will be made available totally free of charge to all 
> non-profit museums, colleges, universities, and potentially, K12 
> schools, when it's completed in 2005-2006.  If you're interested, take a 
> look at:
> http://www.nmc.net/projects/lo/pachyderm.shtml and
> http://www.nmc.net/projects/lo/pachyderm.shtml
> 
> -Ted
> ==============================================
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>
>> Henry K van Eyken wrote:
>>
>>> Having filled out the survey, I do well understand Jack's sentiment.
>>> There is a bridge to be built between his and Tom's. They are different;
>>> not opposed.
>>>
>>> Henry
>>>
>>> P.S. And for a first attempt, I think Josh did an admirable job.
>>>
>> And I, too, think the questions to be an admirable first attempt. But, 
>> I  wonder about a few things, like, what is the nature of a 
>> collaboratory in the first place.
>>        Does a collaboratory require/need/want leaders?
>>       Who asks the questions?
>>       When a collaboratory performs self-assessment, how is that done?
>>       Indeed, what is a collaboratory?
>>
>> Would Tom's "fair sample" best be generated by circulating the 
>> meta-question "what questions should we be asking of ourselves?"
>>
>> To be fair, my questions here are typical of reactionaries, and most 
>> groups have at least one of them, and I also think that Eugene and 
>> Chris have done Doug Engelbart's vision proud in starting blueoxen in 
>> the first place.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>>
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> 
> 
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