There is another fundamental issue here, about pre- and post-structuring
conversations. Andrius favors well thought-out groups structured around
topics. If you have an idea, you express it to the group. A flip to
this is a topic which gathers its own community, closer to the Internet
Topic Exchange and RSS feeds. (01)
I'd like to see readable, dense threads of asynchronous conversation,
knowing who is listening, with background info (livingdirectory.org
style) available if I want to drill down to find more about a person.
I'd like to restrict my communications to only those who fully identify
themselves to a social network, and I'd like to join/drop out of these
threads as they interest me. I really don't care if the thread starts
in Positive Psychology, GivingSpace, Blue Oxen, or Jack's personal
mailing list, it the topic and the ensemble of people around it that
interest me. So, communication becomes topic-centric, not "owned" by
some structure. (02)
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From: Andrius Kulikauskas [mailto:ms@ms.lt]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:20 PM
To: yak@collab.blueoxen.net
Subject: [yak@collab] "Something" called Common Channels (03)
cdent@blueoxen.org wrote: (04)
> This "something" is the crux of the biscuit. I've long felt that
> a group without the "something" is just massaging themselves and
> the other members. Massaging is good, it keeps things in motion
> and causes a lot of idea exchange (as expressed in this and
> related threads of late), but nothing, other than conversation
> and good feelings, happens at the massage parlour. The action is
> out there, in the world. A massage can help you get back on the
> field, feeling refreshed, but you gotta do something. (05)
What a great flurry of letters!
"Something" that I think would be valuable is finding a way to transmit
that energy to other groups, so that they might perk each other up. (06)
That's the goal of "Common Channels" which I've started to set up. The
idea is to encourage activity within and amongst groups by sending
encouragements that reference what people are getting done. I greatly
appreciate a push of help to make this "something" work! (07)
For example, posted by Dorai Thodla dorai[AT]thodla.com: (08)
> Andrius,
> This is a great idea. I am definitely interested in
> participating and contributing (where I can). To start with I would
> love to discuss on tools for augmented thinking since I do some work
> for Bootstrap Alliance. There are other channels of interest but I
> will try one to see what develops before jumping in to others. (09)
Dorai, Great! How might we best do this? I'm thinking that I could set (010)
you up as a contributor linked to a Blue Oxen list, so that any week
that you're actively contributing, a letter will go out that week to the (011)
list, including your contribution and others from that channel. I
include below an update. Andrius, http://www.ms.lt
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I've set up a domain "Common Channels" for the weekly feeds by which I
want to encourage activity within and amongst groups.
http://www.commonchannels.com description and list of channels
http://www.commonchannels.com/cgi-bin/view.py search the archives
http://www.commonchannels.com/cgi-bin/letter.py what the letters
will look like. (013)
Now I'm looking for:
- online groups that would like to get free weekly feeds
- people who would like to contribute material
- sponsors (I think $2,000 per year per channel) (014)
Also, I'm looking for the right logic to sign up groups. "Asking for
permission" doesn't quite work because groups are dumber then they
like to think. I mean that the decision-making-ability of the group
is definitely less than the individuals that compose it. If you ask
for permission, you will get no response from anybody, there may be no
proactive leader of the group, or that leader may not feel willing or
able to venture outside of what they are doing already, or may want to
have others in the group decide, but don't know how to involve them,
etc., etc. (015)
I'm willing to be crude, (which is how I think of "social hacking"),
but I would prefer to be less so. For example, there's not much that
keeps a member of a group from sending them out under their email
address, within reason. Also, I'm curious if the letters should go
out regularly, or be triggered by a contributor from that group. When
they submit an encouragement, the letter might get sent out the next
day with the rest of the encouragements. (016)
If there are any strong leaders who would like to make this work and
could sign up their group to a channel or two, please let me know,
that would be fantastic! I would be interested to customize this to
get it to work. (017)
Andrius (018)
Andrius Kulikauskas
Minciu Sodas
http://www.ms.lt
ms@m...
+370 52645950
Vilnius, Lithuania (019)
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