On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Peter P. Jones wrote: (01)
> On 12 Nov 2003 at 14:28, cdent@blueoxen.org wrote:
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> [...]
> > the salient point is:
> >
> > http://www.burningchrome.com:8000/~cdent/mt/archives/000210.html#nidM
> > O
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> But you appear to confuse yourself in the next paragraph. Is it a
> shared goal or leadership that really does the work? (02)
The leadership is a secondary point. If there is _already_ a
shared goal, leadership exists in the form of the goal. If there
isn't, then leadership is needed to whip people or convert them
to the new religion (a goal that becomes shared). (03)
A leader has no legitimacy until it/he/she has convinced the
members of the group of the goal. Otherwise there is only half
hearted effort. (04)
This all strikes me as incredibly obvious, which is probably why
I've never been able to explain it well, and never been
particularly interested in explaining it. It's sort of like,
"what, you mean you don't already know this? No wonder we aren't
getting anywhere." (05)
> On my understanding of the metaphor, no amount of leadership can herd
> cats, but cats do like to feed. (06)
Some cats, lions for example, work in tandem when they have the
shared goal of bringing down an ox. They don't need leadership
because they already believe and know they need that food. (07)
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Once you knew, once you really, really knew,
then you had lost your alibi. --Samantha Power (08)
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