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Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:28:08 -0500 (EST)
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On Wed, 12 Nov 2003, Ted Kahn wrote:    (01)

 > - (1) collaboration is different than cooperation--it's focused on
 > designing or making something together, or making something happen.
 > Conversation and meaning-making are a necessary part of this process,
 > but if you want to get convergence and leverage of collective
 > intelligence, talents, and diversity of experiences, the best way to
 > do this that I have found is to be really making something
 > together...(Michael Schrage's book, "No More Teams" (initially
 > published as  "Shared Minds" in the early 90's) is one of the best
 > books I've read about this issue.    (02)

This "something" is the crux of the biscuit. I've long felt that
a group without the "something" is just massaging themselves and
the other members. Massaging is good, it keeps things in motion
and causes a lot of idea exchange (as expressed in this and
related threads of late), but nothing, other than conversation
and good feelings, happens at the massage parlour. The action is
out there, in the world. A massage can help you get back on the
field, feeling refreshed, but you gotta do something.    (03)

I rambled about this on my blog back in September:    (04)

 http://www.burningchrome.com:8000/~cdent/mt/archives/000210.html    (05)

the salient point is:    (06)

 http://www.burningchrome.com:8000/~cdent/mt/archives/000210.html#nidMO    (07)

Please feel free to fill in some of the wiki blanks pointed to by
that doc, if you feel so inclined. That's what it's there for.    (08)

-- 
Chris Dent                  cdent@blueoxen.org
Once you knew, once you really, really knew,
then you had lost your alibi. --Samantha Power    (09)

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