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[yak@collab] Re: Survey of yak and tools-yak on the way

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From: Josh Rai <joshr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 21:12:53 -0800
Message-id: <3FB1C155.8070500@babycenter.com>
You may direct any outrage or incredulous looks at Eugene, Miroslav and me.    (01)

Josh    (02)

Jack Park wrote:
> I did it. Who wrote those questions?
> 
> Jack Park wrote:
> 
>> Gag me with a spoon...
>>
>> Tom Munnecke wrote:
>>
>>> It took me 15 minutes, Jack... you can do it.  You can do it...  think
>>> of the little train that could. -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jack Park [mailto:jackpark@thinkalong.com] Sent: Tuesday, 
>>> November 11, 2003 5:34 PM
>>> To: yak@collab.blueoxen.net
>>> Subject: [yak@collab] Re: Survey of yak and tools-yak on the way
>>>
>>> It takes a "doer" to foment a form for others to fill out. It takes a 
>>> special kind of doer, one who's not tied doing other things, to fill out
>>>
>>> that damned form.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>>
>>> Josh Rai wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> As threatened
>>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>> (http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/cgi-bin/mesg.cgi?a=yak&i=3F832F29.106
>>> 0700@babycenter.com), 
>>>
>>>> Eugene, Miroslav and I are back to let you know that you all can 
>>>> expect to receive a survey about the Blue Oxen collaboratories via 
>>>> email in the coming hours.
>>>>
>>>> Part of the purpose of the survey is to evaluate and improve the 
>>>> collaboratories.  Another part is for us to develop, through 
>>>> practice and thought, techniques for evaluating collaborative 
>>>> environments in general. We are cognizant of the risks of looking 
>>>> for yardsticks in such a thicket (as Tom, Chris and others have 
>>>> warned), but I think it's worth a try.
>>>>
>>>> Jack's classification of doers and talkers strikes me especially in 
>>>> the context of this survey and the associated report we're working on;
>>>>   
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>>>> I'm not sure to which category one belongs when one is writing a 
>>>> report about collaboration.  On the face of it, it's just more 
>>>> talk.  But I would consider such activity truly successful only if 
>>>> changes, for the better, the way people work together.  I think this 
>>>> is heading
>>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>> down the "words are deeds" trail.  Anyway, I'm at least trying to 
>>>> cross the border into the world of the doer.
>>>>
>>>> It's been encouraging to see recent discussions about the pros and 
>>>> cons of the lists on the lists themselves recently.  Some of you may 
>>>> be able to cite your postings as answers to some of the survey
>>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>> questions.
>>>  
>>>
>>>> Anyway, we'd really appreciate your candid feedback, and we will try 
>>>> to make the most of it.  Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
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