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From: "Dorai Thodla" <dorai@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 16:01:53 -0800
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I would choose 5. For two reasons:
- I don't think the tools are the problem  but people are. However, I
would like to seek a bit of a clarification. When we say people (are the
problem) what are we saying. In this context people is a bit overloaded
term. I took it to mean:
- the attitude of the people in investing time to improve (sharpening
the saw as Covey would say)
- the knowledge about what collective IQ is how to improve it (which
means that all of us have to agree that the parameters/metrics of
collective IQ has x,y,z,... Components)    (01)


In fact, this deserves another thread, What is Collective IQ?    (02)

-- Dorai    (03)

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From: cdent@blueoxen.org [mailto:cdent@blueoxen.org] 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 2:54 PM
To: yak@collab.blueoxen.net    (04)

On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Jack Park wrote:    (05)

> I take up so much bandwidth here on topics like this because I believe    (06)

> these topics to be germane to the evolution of tools useful to the 
> augmentation of a collective IQ.    (07)

(Moving this to yak, from tools, as I'm moving into
philosophy-land)    (08)

This reminds me of a little informal survey I've been wanting to
throw:    (09)

Assume a scale of 1 to 7. A point on the scale is the locus of the
problem or hotpoint of challenge in augmenting collective IQ.
At one end we have tools at the other people:    (010)

   tools                     people
      1   2   3   4   5   6   7    (011)

What number would you choose? Why?    (012)

A 1, for example, would mean something like "I think if we could just
create the right tool, we could really bootstrap our improvement and get
the ball rolling."    (013)

A 7 might mean "I think the real roadblock is with people.
Despite their protests to the contrary, I think people are
subconsciously spending their energy in ineffective manners."    (014)

I'd guess I'm about a 6. I think sufficiently motivated people will and
can make whatever tools are necessary. Society lacks motivation, so the
tipping point has not been reached.    (015)

That said, I'm well aware that there are many individuals who are far
more motivated that society as a whole and they are trying.    (016)

--
Chris Dent
cdent@blueoxen.org    (017)

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