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[yak@collab] Re: collaboration and coevolution

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From: "Dorai Thodla" <dorai@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 06:19:23 -0800
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Most of you who worked with Doug already know what I am going to say.    (01)

Collaboration - The act of actively sharing knowledge/work to achieve
common goals.
Co-evolution - I heard it first from Doug Engelbart. According to Doug,
co-evolution is the process of evolving both humans capabilities and
tool capabilities. Humans make tools. Tools augment humans. Augmented
humans make better tools and so on. It is the cycle of innovation that
is fostered by thinking, inventing, using, improving and thinking about
improving.    (02)

Where is the intersection? 
- Collaboration implies teams sharing tools and work products and moving
towards their common purpose more effectively
- Setting up improvement communities to improve how they can collaborate
- Developing tools for improvement    (03)

There are a couple of related terms:    (04)

CODIAK - Concurrent Development and Improvement and Application of
Knowledge (Doug again) is a process of the collaboration-co-evolution
cycle.     (05)

One of the common goals may be to improve the collective IQ of a
group/community/team. Collective IQ is a Doug term again. I have always
been fascinated by it. While intuitively, I can relate to it, I am not
sure how to express it. That is certainly worth a dialog on its own.    (06)

-- Dorai    (07)



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Dent [mailto:cdent@burningchrome.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 1:03 AM
To: yak@collab.blueoxen.net    (08)


On a clear day one might choose to encapsulate the mission of Blue Oxen
as "the collaborative fostering of coevolution".    (09)

I can make that statement, pulling it fully formed from my mind, and
have a strong intuitive sense of what it means; however, I cannot give a
concrete definition of the statement nor of the words within.    (010)

Who will help me? What is the definition of collaboration? What is the
definition of coevolution? In what ways to do the two concepts overlap?
Do they support one another? Does one predetermine the other?    (011)

The evaluation of H2O stumbled on the definition of collaboration. How
are we to evaluate collaborative tools if we don't have a definition for
collaboration? Eric Armstrong has his person definition, yet it is in a
particular context: persistent collaboration for the creation of
document. Do we always collaborate to produce something or is that too
specific?    (012)

Wordnet provides the following definition for collaboration    (013)

http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn1.7.1?stage=1&word=collabor
ation    (014)

  1. collaboration, coaction -- (act of working jointly; "they
     worked either in collaboration or independently")
  2. collaboration, quislingism -- (act of cooperating traitorously
     with an enemy)    (015)

and nothing for coevolution. For evolution they have    (016)

http://www.cogsci.princeton.edu/cgi-bin/webwn1.7.1?stage=1&word=evolutio
n    (017)

  1. development, evolution -- (a process in which something passes
     by degrees to a different stage (especially a more advanced or
     mature stage); "the development of his ideas took many years";
     "the evolution of Greek civilization"; "the slow development of
     her skill as a writer")
  2. evolution, phylogeny, phylogenesis -- ((biology) the sequence
     of events involved in the evolutionary development of a species
     or taxonomic group of organisms)    (018)

"Co" as a prefix comes from latin for together or with.    (019)

So that works out to:    (020)

  working together    (021)

  passing by degrees to a different stage together    (022)

That's too literal. What I want to know, and what I think we as a group
need to choose are the connotations of the terms, the full conceptual
picture they encompass.    (023)

Tag, somebody else is it.    (024)

--
Chris Dent  <cdent@burningchrome.com>
http://www.burningchrome.com/~cdent/
"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
(and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless
series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary." --H. L. Mencken    (025)

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