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[tools-yak@collab] Re: Tool Ideas WAS: Re: [yak@collab] Re: Globalwarmin

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From: "Peter P. Jones" <ppj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:52:35 +0100
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John Sechrest wrote:
> I am very interested in having a distributed tuple space that is 
> substantial. I would like to hear your requirements for a tuple space.
> 
> What kind of data store size?
> What kind of tuples?
> What kind of latency? 
> 
> Or are you just going to use the Rinda stuff in ruby and call it good?
For now Rinda suits my needs.
I can't answer your questions about limits.    (01)

> 
> On another topic... Given these tools....
> 
> Any tool needs to have a market to make progress. And to enter a market,
> you have to create value beyond what exists now by a substantial factor.
I will give it away LGPL but retain rights over GUI design. It will take 
or it won't.    (02)

> 
> How do you see these neat technologies solving a problem and creating value
> for joe sixpack who is trying to do daily work?
Better dialog over documents.    (03)



> 
> 
> 
> "Peter P. Jones" <ppj@concept67.net> writes:
> 
>  % Hi,
>  % 
>  % [moving this to tools-yak]
>  % 
>  % Neither of the tools are (I should say, 'will be') specific to 
>  % addressing the climate change issue directly.
>  % 
>  % One is a new interface for chat (presently existing only in my head so 
>  % far) called FunnelChat(tm). The chat app will also have a plain old chat 
>  % interface just in case I can't provide adequate accessibility cues for 
>  % blind people in FC.
>  % 
>  % The other aims to combine that with things I was going to extend a 
>  % viewer of SoupFlox/XML documents to do: layering FunnelChat(tm), 
>  % scribble pads, comment and other graphs, and document editing, into a 
>  % single interface over a document or set of documents. It may have a 3D 
>  % aspect to it.
>  % That's a longer haul than getting FC working, and much of the groundwork 
>  % will be in FC, so I will do that first.
>  % 
>  % The plan is to use a tuplespace behind the whole lot and drive 
>  % peer-to-peer work.
>  % 
>  % I've just discovered that the dRuby security feature is Ok (apologies to 
>  % Mats SEKI) provided I don't expose the wrong front object (you may 
>  % laugh...). So I'm moving again.
>  % 
>  % -- 
>  % Peter
>  % 
>  % John Sechrest wrote:
>  % > "Peter P. Jones" <ppj@lllllllllll> writes:
>  % > 
>  % >  % > Is this something that anyone has any interest in?
>  % > 
>  % >  % The two Yak oriented tools I have on the burner are both presently 
>  % >  % halted because of a 'feature' of dRuby security that I'm hoping 
>smarter 
>  % >  % folks are working on sorting.
>  % >  % The ideas are still ticking though, if you want to discuss them.
>  % > 
>  % >  Certainly. How do you see these tools addressing the question
>  % >  of climate change understanding? And how do they provide
>  % >  leverage that amplifies quality results?
>  % > 
>  % > 
>  % > 
>  % > 
>  % > -----
>  % > John Sechrest          .         Helping people use
>  % >                         .           computers and the Internet
>  % >                           .            more effectively
>  % >                              .                      
>  % >                                  .       Internet: sechrest@peak.org
>  % >                                       .   
>  % >                                               . 
>http://www.peak.org/~sechrest
>  % > 
>  % 
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> 
> -----
> John Sechrest          .         Helping people use
>                         .           computers and the Internet
>                           .            more effectively
>                              .                      
>                                  .       Internet: sechrest@peak.org
>                                       .   
>                                               . http://www.peak.org/~sechrest
>     (04)

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