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From: "Peter P. Jones" <ppj@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2004 12:29:55 -0000
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Anyone know if Compendium is Open Source yet?    (01)

On 6 Feb 2004 at 14:32, Eugene Eric Kim wrote:    (02)

> On Fri, Feb 06, 2004 at 02:54:38AM +0000, Albert Selvin wrote:
> 
> > But, to me, what's really interesting about Compendium is not any of
> > these individually. It's the ability to interweave them, to create
> > deep hypertexts, and to manipulate them in real time (as in live
> > group sessions) without programming, as well as to be able to
> > interchange the data and metadata created with other sorts of tools
> > and approaches.
> 
> I agree with this.  The dirty little secret behind Compendium is that
> it embodies a lot of the principles behind the Open Hyperdocument
> System.  Perhaps this isn't so surprising if you consider that Jeff
> Conklin, the intellectual father of Dialog Mapping and graphical IBIS,
> considers Doug Engelbart one of his two intellectual grandfathers (the
> other being Horst Rittel, the inventor of IBIS).
> 
> Compendium makes heavy use of transclusions and multiple views.
> Additionally, when you use some of the importing tools people have
> written, you can essentially import textual documents into a
> Compendium graph.  Once you have that document in graph form, you can
> do all the things we've talked about -- transclusions, granular
> addressability, laying new structure on top of existing structure,
> etc.
> 
> There's really some deep stuff in Compendium.  It's not just a great
> facilitation or information tool.  I'm not sure if you can capture the
> depth in an elevator speech.
> 
> There's one other tool in the market today that I think really
> embodies the principles of the Open Hyperdocument System.  It's the
> spreadsheet.  Instead of a graph structure, you have a table structure
> (although you can express a table as a graph).  You have granular
> addressability at the cell level.  You have transclusions by plugging
> in the cell address into another cell.  You have multiple views.
> 
> If you take Microsoft Excel and plug an OLAP server on the backend,
> you really have a very powerful system -- things like granular access
> control, versioning etc.
> 
> -Eugene
> 
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