Sorry. I just posted an old mail from Evan but none of the links seem to
work. I will try to locate and repost. (01)
-- Dorai (02)
-----Original Message-----
From: dorait [mailto:dorait@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:16 PM
To: tools-yak@collab.blueoxen.net
Subject: [tools-yak@collab] Re: HyperScope View Commands (03)
Here are the links to Augment View Commands (04)
Hi Dorai- (05)
There are 3 userguides that deal with viewspecs. (06)
The "A2H" form of these are located at: (07)
http://people.ucsc.edu/~carb/augment/BI5/USER2:USERGUIDES/VIEWING.html (08)
http://people.ucsc.edu/~carb/augment/BI5/USER2:USERGUIDES/VIEWSPECS-CHART.ht
ml (09)
http://people.ucsc.edu/~carb/augment/BI5/USER2:USERGUIDES/VIEWSPECS.html (010)
If you have any problems with these links, there is a list of userguides
that have been converted at: (011)
http://people.ucsc.edu/~carb/augment/a2h.html (012)
I hope that this helps (013)
-Evan (014)
-----Original Message-----
From: dorait [mailto:dorait@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 7:46 PM
To: tools-yak@collab.blueoxen.net
Subject: [tools-yak@collab] HyperScope View Commands (015)
Hi Eugene,
Here are the commands implemented in the HyperScope Prototype.I am
demonstrating it to Doug tomorrow and we are still testing and fixing bugs
and hope to have a reasonably stable version by the end of the month on a BA
portal site. (016)
Level:
a: show one level less than currently displayed
b: show one level more than currently displayed
c: show all levels
d: show only level-1 statements (017)
Truncation:
q: show one line less than currently displayed
r: shown one line more than currently displayed
s: show all lines of each displayed statement
t: show only first line of displayed statements (018)
Others:
w: show all statement lines and levels (same as cs)
x: show only one line and one level (same as dt) (019)
Blanks:
y: display blank line between statements
z: do not display blank line between statements (020)
Statement Signature:
m: display statement addresses
n: do not display statement addresses (021)
I have a link to the original Augment commands somewhere. I will locate it
and post the link or put it up in my wiki pages. (022)
You are right about the augment view commands as a kind of language. There
is a capability to build your own high level commands by stringing together
several commands (a sort of macro capability) which we plan to implement in
the next iteration. Since the scope of the prototype is more breadth than
depth, we have implemented bits and pieces of viewing, jumping, linking and
annotations. I will post more info on my wiki page soon (may be this
weekend). (023)
P.S: Last couple of weeks have been pretty hectic. So I have not responded
to your post about eating our dog food yet. Will do soon. (024)
-----Original Message-----
From: Eugene Eric Kim [mailto:eekim@blueoxen.org]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 4:30 PM
To: tools-yak@collab.blueoxen.net
Subject: [tools-yak@collab] Re: "Purple numbers" in a different form (025)
On Wed, Feb 04, 2004 at 06:33:38AM -0800, John Sechrest wrote: (026)
> But if I want to reference
> a) specific ranges of paragraphs
> b) subparagraph words
> c) Just the first sentence of each paragraph
> d) The current "3rd" paragraph in a document
>
> I don't currently know how to do it. (027)
Use XPath: (028)
http://www.w3.org/TR/xpath (029)
You don't need purple numbers for this. (030)
> I know that I can refer to a given specific paragraph, but when it
> gets edited, do I get the current edited one or the old one, if I
> refer to the purple number?
>
> How do I make that choice, at the moment it is not clear to me. (031)
Versioning is an issue we've deftly ignored. But it certainly is an issue. (032)
> As I understand NLS, they are integrated. A viewspec it combined with
> an adress specification to produce a view.
>
> So if I want to have a view which is :
>
> no purple numbers
> the first three paragraphs of the current page
>
> How would I say it?
>
> Or if I wanted to have:
>
> purple numbers
> The 4th,5th,6th paragraphs
> And the first sentence of each paragraph
>
> how would I say it? (033)
I'm not sure if Augment can do the things you ask. I'll drop an email to
Doug. (034)
But, I understand your point. And my response is that you're not so much
asking for viewspecs (although this is how the feature manifests itself),
you're asking for a language for addressing. That's XPath. (035)
> So we have basic shortage of addressing modes in order to get
> viewspecs moving with any velocity. (036)
You're making a very broad conclusion here, one I don't agree with.
The things that's preventing viewspecs from "moving with any velocity"
are: (037)
* A lack of understanding of what viewspecs are. (038)
* A lack of interest. (039)
Matt Schneider has collapsible outlines in PurpleSlurple. PurpleWiki was
architected to support similar viewspecs and more, although we have not
implemented them yet. Dorai is working on the HyperScope.
Dorai, do you have a list of the viewspecs that Augment supports as well as
the viewspecs the first version of the HyperScope supports? (040)
To be honest, viewspecs baffle me. I can't figure out where exactly they
fit in my picture of the world. (041)
-Eugene (042)
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