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From: John Sechrest <sechrest@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2004 06:17:11 -0800
Message-id: <200402031417.i13EHBl11515@jas.peak.org>

Albert,    (01)

        Help me understand compendium....    (02)

        I agree with what you say below, but I am still
        on the outside.    (03)

        Can you walk thru an example of why I want to 
        invest in learning complendium?    (04)

        I can immediately see why I want to use Photoshop. 
        I have an image, I want to change it to make
        X happen.    (05)

        What is the story that illustrates why I want to 
        use compendium.    (06)




"Albert Selvin" <albert_selvin@hotmail.com> writes:    (07)

 % I'm more of a Compendium obsessive or monomaniac than a mere advocate :-) , 
 % but I have a few provisional answers to Eric's question below.
 % 
 % - there is a relatively high cognitive barrier to entry to starting to use 
 % Compendium (or probably any other tool that appears to require 'extra' steps 
 % like choosing node types, chunking text into nodes at first entry, etc.)
 % 
 % - the tool doesn't answer the question "why should I use you" in an 
 % immediate and obvious fashion
 % 
 % - it seems to be a harder way to do something relatively simple (structuring 
 % discourse) than simpler approaches provide
 % 
 % - it's sort of hard to do it well, or at least it requires some skill and 
 % thought to do so; it's easy to make unfollowable messes of nodes and links
 % 
 % - the approach seems to work best for communication oriented to the shaping 
 % of some sort of communal artifact (a knowledge base, a repository of project 
 % information, a set of models, a bunch of interrelated stories/narratives, 
 % etc.) then for informal, free-form communication
 % 
 % Having said that, there are many other powerful and tremendously useful 
 % tools that share at least some of the same characteristics (I always think 
 % of Photoshop as an example there, and many programming tools). If the above 
 % aren't barriers, and if one has the patience, personal orientation, skills, 
 % and/or suitable end goals in mind, Compendium can be of immense value, a 
 % faster and more expressive way to create 'discourse objects' than any other 
 % that I've found (sorry if that sounds fanatical again :-)  ).
 % 
 % Al
 % 
 % 
 % 
 % >From: Eugene Eric Kim <eekim@blueoxen.org>
 % ...
 % >Another example: We have two strong Compendium advocates in this group
 % >-- Al and Simon.  I'd like to consider myself one as well, as the tool
 % >is an integral part of my work, but sadly, I'm less vocal.  Danny,
 % >Matt, Eric, and Jack have all posted thoughts on IBIS.  Why aren't
 % >more people trying Compendium?
 % >
 % 
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