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[tools-yak@collab] Re: grass roots peer review experiment

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From: Eugene Eric Kim <eekim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 08:44:44 -0700
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On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:58:44PM -0700, blinc wrote:    (01)

> My strong view of the rating issue is that most ratings without comment are 
>of 
> nearly no value.
> 
> There are places for purely numerical ratings, but when discussing factual 
> information, it is almost never enough.      (02)

I'm not sure if I agree with "no value," but I do agree that ratings
augmented with comments are useful.  I also think this has some
implications on design of ratings systems.    (03)

When I was playing with Kathryn and Chris's faceted classification
tool for the Bootstrap Alliance archives, one of my comments was that
the rating system was meaningless to me.  It used a 10 point numerical
scale to rate posts to the BA lists.  The problem was that other
people were not rating articles the way I was, and I wasn't even
rating articles consistently.  For example, I would rate an article as
an 8 because it was interesting, but not relevant, and then would rate
a later article a 7 because it was relevant, but not interesting.
When I reviewed my rated articles, I would find that I didn't like
having the latter rated below the former, because relevance was more
important to me than interest (in this particular case).    (04)

I resolved this problem by coming up with a more well-defined system
for myself, and applying that system consistently.  This still didn't
resolve the problem of other people rating articles their own way.    (05)

As an aside, I read a great book by Gregory Treverton about the
problems of the American intelligence system that was published a few
months before 9/11.  There was an anecdote about one of the
intelligence agencies working out a consistent rating system
internally.  I'll try to pull out the reference next week; I'm away
from my archive of notes this week.  (*sigh*  If only I had a DKR with
intelligent mobile capabilities.)    (06)

What implications does this anecdote and Brian's point have on ratings
systems?  Don't go overboard with numbers, first of all.  Is a 10
point scale really better than a five point scale, or even a three
point scale?    (07)

Second, what people are supposed to be rating matters, except when it
doesn't. :-) If people are supposed to be rating relevance, then say
that.  In the case of a trust-network rating system, defining this
stuff probably matters less, because you're probably interested in
other people's interests on a variety of levels.  I might include Bill
in my trust network not just because of his discriminating eye for
factual correctness, but also because his sense of humor agrees with
me.    (08)

-Eugene    (09)

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