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[tools-yak@collab] Re: send plaintext *and* HTML email in list?

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From: John Sechrest <sechrest@xxxxxxxx>
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 10:45:18 -0700
Message-id: <200307181745.h6IHjIa01548@jas.peak.org>


Bill Seitz <bill@fluxent.com> writes:    (01)


 % I understand that some people use email readers which don't handle HTML 
 % content.    (02)

 Yes... Me for example.     (03)

 % But current GUI mailers send (optionally) both plaintext and HTML 
 % versions of messages (multipart-mime).    (04)

 Yes.... What a pain.     (05)


 % Are the plaintext readers current enough to just read the plaintext 
 % piece of the message?    (06)


 Yes, mostly. The plain text is first. 
 It has goop like:    (07)


 % --------------030401070804000706010202
 % Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 % Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit    (08)


 In the middle you have to dance around.     (09)




 % What ends up in the archived page?    (010)

 It depends on the archiver. But mhonarc, the last time
 I looked at it did not do a good job of coping with HTML.     (011)


 % I have intentionally sent this message in such a manner. Here is a 
 % *bold*word just to make sure something non-plain goes along.    (012)


 Yes... I see all the goop.    (013)

 And it leaves the following on the message that
 you have to delete.    (014)

 I tend to leave it on the message and then get complaints
 about all the extra goop I put into messages.... (sigh)    (015)


 Your HTML generator is rather clean. Some of them
 produce pages and pages of noise.    (016)




 % --------------030401070804000706010202
 % Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
 % Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
 % 
 % <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
 % <html>
 % <head>
 %   <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1">
 %   <title></title>
 % </head>
 % <body>
 % I understand that some people use email readers which don't handle HTML
 % content.<br>
 % <br>
 % But current GUI mailers send (optionally) both plaintext and HTML
 % versions of messages (multipart-mime). <br>
 % <br>
 % Are the plaintext readers current enough to just read the plaintext
 % piece of the message?<br>
 % <br>
 % What ends up in the archived page?<br>
 % <br>
 % I have intentionally sent this message in such a manner. Here is a 
<b>bold</b>word
 % just to make sure something non-plain goes along.<br>
 % </body>
 % </html>
 % 
 % --------------030401070804000706010202--
 % 
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