On 13 May 2003 at 15:03, cdent@blueoxen.org wrote: (01)
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>
> There's a lot to respond to here, but I think I'll have to just
> start with:
>
> How can there possibly be such a thing as an artificial concept?
> If a concept is born, it's no longer artificial: it exists, it
> has at least a seed of meaning, it has potential, it has
> context. (02)
Nice proof.
The term artificial concept seems to be an artificial concept. :) (03)
>
> I wouldn't call it fogging the picture, I'd call it, perhaps,
> layering. (04)
Which implies that distinguishability is retrievable. That's fine as
long as the algorithm for retrieval is not hidden. (05)
>
> WikiWords are concepts are names are patterns are containers are
> objects are neurons are transmitters are identifiers are labels
> are categories ... (06)
But that's precisely the kind of overloading I'm fighting against. (07)
>
> That makes them both special and not. You can take any of the
> words in my previous list and make it first instead, it doesn't
> really matter.
>
> Once you have identified a stack of things in a layering, you can try
> to apply the associates of an element in the stack to one of the other
> elements in the stack. This leads to questions and answers that one
> may not have thought about before[1] (08)
This point is interesting... Can you provide an example? (09)
>
> Okay, so say a WikiWord is a neuron. What might be LSD for Wikis?
>
> A WikiWord is a label. Human readable labels lead to namespace
> collisions. What can we do about that? Is it a good or bad
> thing? [2]
Perhaps that is food for a separate thread...
>
> If you want to be more formal about what I'm saying, change 'are'
> above to like-a rather than is-a and then place it all in the context
> of my belief that productive thinking comes about through analogy. (010)
That would be better from the point of view I am maintaining. But
then I would have to ask why that move is not explicit in a humble
mashed Wiki word? (011)
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> [1] I'm not suggesting this is th eonly path to whatever thoughts are
> made, just that this is a way and many ways seems like a good idea.
>
> [2] http://purplewiki.blueoxen.net/forums/devel/2003-05/msg00001.html
>
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