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[tools-yak@collab] Re: turned on ExpandingWikiWords on my wikilog

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From: Eugene Eric Kim <eekim@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 12:26:17 -0700
Message-id: <20030512192617.GB11350@douge.blueoxen.net>
On Mon, May 12, 2003 at 12:12:36PM -0700, Tom Munnecke wrote:    (01)

> It seems to me that we could have a generalization of "out of text"
> behavior, linking things to the user's perspective, not the "system's"
> perspective.  In other words, I don't want to restricted to being "in" a
> wiki to use wiki words.  Seems to me that a more generalized linking
> system is not too far out of the question... Perhaps Annotea is a
> possibility?  http://www.w3.org/2001/Annotea    (02)

I don't quite understand what you're asking for.  You make three
points:    (03)

  * You'd like to link things to the user's perspective, not the
    system's perspective.    (04)

    Are you saying that users should have control over what they link
    to?  They already do!    (05)

  * You don't want to be restricted to being "in" a Wiki to use
    WikiWords.    (06)

    I don't understand the relation of this point to your previous
    point.  Could you clarify?    (07)

    Incidentally, you don't have to be in a Wiki to use WikiWords.
    Chris's mods to MovableType is an excellent example of this.
    Garold's suggestion of integrating WikiText into e-mail archives
    is another.    (08)

  * You'd like a more generalized linking system, perhaps Annotea.    (09)

    More generalized than what?    (010)

> The other thing that would be neat is to have a specific declaration of
> context in a text.  A developmental neurobiologist could announce this
> linguistic "shell" at the beginning of an document.  If we think of
> documents flowing over time, (and also tracked the flow of the context
> over time), we would be able to recognize what text had what meaning
> over time.  New information and discoveries could be added to the
> existing context, or new contexts could be created and declared as part
> of the document stream.    (011)

What exactly are you looking for here?    (012)

If you're talking about human-to-human communication, that mechanism
exists.  You say at the begining of your e-mail, "I'm talking in
DevelopmentalNeurobiologistSpeak."    (013)

If you're talking about computer-to-computer communication, that
mechanism also exists.  You declare namespaces that are associated
with ontologies.    (014)

-Eugene    (015)

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