I just want to say that, among the many reasons I like the Blue Oxen
groups, is that Chris Dent and Eugene Eric Kim put together great weekly
summaries. I find them helpful. And a great example of mixing media:
list, summary and wiki. Thank you! Andrius, http://www.ms.lt (01)
Eugene Eric Kim wrote (presumed copyright): (02)
> Blue Oxen Collab Collaboratory Summary -- 2003-04-14
> ======================================================================
>
> In which a summary of recent activity on the yak@collab and
> tools-yak@collab lists and CollabWiki is provided.
>
> Please respond with corrections, comments, questions, and suggestions.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Once again, I'm subbing in for Chris, who's recovering from a crazy
> trip to San Francisco and general overexposure to yours truly. He'll
> be back next week.
>
> The previous summary may be found here:
>
> http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00000.html
>
> All the summaries may be found from here:
>
> http://collab.blueoxen.net/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?MailingListSummaries
>
> == Blue Oxen News ====================================================
>
> Blue Oxen Associates threw its Launch Party on April 8, 2003.[1] Among
> the over 100 people who attended were several members of the Collab
> collaboratory.[2] Thank you all who showed, and thank you all who
> sent their regards!
>
> We also released our first research report, "An Introduction to Open
> Source Communities":[3]
>
> http://www.blueoxen.org/research/00007/
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/yak/2003-04/msg00001.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/yak/2003-04/msg00015.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/yak/2003-04/msg00018.html
>
> == Collab Collaboratory Mission ======================================
>
> A few weeks ago, Garold Johnson had asked about the purpose of these
> collaboratories. I cited four main goals, and expounded on them.[1]
> Feedback was underwhelming. Either people agreed with everything I
> said, or were too busy doing their taxes.
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/yak/2003-04/msg00002.html
>
> == Pattern Languages =================================================
>
> Dorai Thodla cited a paper on collaboration patterns:[1]
>
> http://www.sdgnews.com/archives/2000/sd2000es/sd2000es005/sd2000es005.htm
>
> Tom Munnecke: pattern language for a conservation economy:[2]
>
> http://www.conservationeconomy.net/
>
> Tom criticized it for being malgnostic.
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/yak/2003-04/msg00020.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00037.html
>
> == Wiki Features =====================================================
>
> Andrius Kulikauskas suggested it would be neat to be able to sync the
> contents of two Wikis.[1] He also said it would be nice to have
> e-mail alerts when Wiki pages changed. Jack Park responded that
> syndication enables these features.[2] John Sechrest noted that
> several Wikis already support syndication and e-mail alerts.[3]
>
> Dorai Thodla asked whether there was a common format for Wiki pages,
> and whether there was common metadata associated with these pages.[4]
> John responded that there was not, and that he, Garold Johnson, and I
> had started work a while back on documenting these differences.
>
> Andrius suggested, in the spirit of coevolution, that we try a
> syndication experiment.[5] He suggested starting with our group's
> Wiki and SocialText's Wiki.[6]
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00003.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00004.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00005.html
> [4] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00007.html
> [5] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00009.html
> [6] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00010.html
>
> == Xpertweb ==========================================================
>
> Andrius told the group that he was beginning work on the Xpertweb
> project:[1]
>
> http://xpertweb.com/
>
> I asked him to clarify what Xpertweb does, and what he'd be doing for
> them.[2] I also asked him to compare Xpertweb with other reputation
> systems, specifically Affero and Friendly Favors:
>
> http://www.affero.com/
>
> http://www.friendlyfavors.org/
>
> Andrius responded with a detailed comparison between the three
> systems.[3]
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00014.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00022.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00051.html
>
> == GivingSpace =======================================================
>
> Tom provided some more background on GivingSpace's latest project --
> an Uplift Academy focused on HIV/AIDS orphans in Africa.[1] He noted
> Larry Harvey's lesson from Burning Man, which emphasized the value of
> having an event around which to focus. Tom's planned event for his
> Uplift Academy is an "uplift day," aimed at September 12, 2003.[2]
>
> Tom invited the group to his GivingSpace seminar on April 7-8 at
> Stanford.[3]
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00023.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00037.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00012.html
>
> == Scraping Web Pages ================================================
>
> Jack Park asked for advice on scraping Web pages.[1] He experimented
> with XPP and JTidy, but was looking for other solutions:
>
> http://www.extreme.indiana.edu/xgws/xsoap/xpp/
>
> http://lempinen.net/sami/jtidy/
>
> Matt Schneider recommended Clinton Wong's _Web Client Programming_ and
> Sean Burke's _Perl & LWP_, both of which use libwww-perl.[2]
>
> I recommended NekoHTML and WWW::Mechanize:
>
> http://www.apache.org/~andyc/neko/doc/html/
>
> http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/01/22/mechanize.html
>
> Danny Ayers pointed Jack to a page that listed several Java HTML
> parser:
>
> http://www.freeroller.net/page/ktorn/20030406#survey_of_java_html_parsers
>
> Andrius pointed Jack to two of his lab members that might be able to
> help: Peter Kaminski and Shannon Clark.[5]
>
> Simon Buckingham Shum recommended Dome:[6]
>
> http://www.aktors.org/technologies/dome/
>
> Shawn Murphy recommended looking at CritLink code:[7]
>
> http://crit.org/
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00015.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00019.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00021.html
> [4] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00028.html
> [5] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00029.html
> [6] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00048.html
> [7] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00049.html
>
> == Compendium To Wiki ================================================
>
> Chris challenged the group to build a translator from the Compendium
> DTD to Wiki format.[1] This would allow posting of Dialog Maps onto
> the Wiki. Simon Buckingham Shum offered assistance.[2]
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00013.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00047.html
>
> == Nooron Content Licensing ==========================================
>
> Andrius asked about the copyright status of content in Nooron.[1] Tom
> responded that it would fall under some open source license, most
> likely the GPL.[2] Andrius noted that the GPL is not appropriate for
> content, and proposed primarily public domain.[3]
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00030.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00031.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00032.html
>
> == ReStructured Text Primer ==========================================
>
> Eric Armstrong drew attention to Richard Jones's, "A ReStructured Text
> Primer":[1]
>
> http://docutils.sourceforge.net/docs/rst/quickstart.html
>
> Jon Cheyer responded by comparing Jones's notes with how Mozilla
> works.[2] Notably, Jon also used Matt Schneider's PurpleSlurple for
> links.[3]
>
>
> [1] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00038.html
> [2] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00042.html
> [3] http://collab.blueoxen.net/forums/tools-yak/2003-04/msg00042.html#nid02
>
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